EARLY WARNING: McCain considering Reboot of Campaign

Crossposted at Motley Moose

Quick diary to alert everyone that McCain might well take another impetuous maverick move before the debate on Wednesday.

The balloon has been hoisted up by Bill Kristol in today's New York Times:

It's time for John McCain to fire his campaign.

He has nothing to lose. His campaign is totally overmatched by Obama's. The Obama team is well organized, flush with resources, and the candidate and the campaign are in sync. The McCain campaign, once merely problematic, is now close to being out-and-out dysfunctional. Its combination of strategic incoherence and operational incompetence has become toxic. If the race continues over the next three weeks to be a conventional one, McCain is doomed.

Over at Fivethirtyeight Nate Silver has been reading the runes...

He notes how the Drudge report has been desperately trying to headline minor variations in McCain's losing edge as a new 'momentum' and comes up with the following prognostication:

The McCain campaign is planning on a major "reboot" of its campaign in some point in advance of Wednesday night's debate.

SNIP

What the McCain campaign really, really doesn't want is for this move to be portrayed as desperate stunt.

SNIP

The only way for McCain to do that is for him to convince the media that he already had the momentum. The campaign will probably try and claim the moral highground, perhaps contrasting McCain's repudiation of the woman who called Obama an "Arab" on Friday against John Lewis's comments from Saturday. They will suggest that McCain found his voice, and made the "maverick" move of telling off the Beltway Republicans who were urging him to go for blood.

SNIP

It won't be an easy spin war for them to win. But they'd seem to have little left to lose, and if the media is reminded of the "old" McCain, they may tend to give his narrative the benefit of the doubt.

Forewarned is forearmed. How to we frame this new spin before it happens?


Poll
If McCain Reboots his Campaign do we...
Show this new spin is just tailspin?
Ignore the stunt, and get on with the big issues?
Keep hammering home the negative tone so far?
All of the above

Votes: 31
Results : Vote Link : Polls

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Re: EARLY WARNING (2.00 / 2)

I heard some talk on cable news this morning that McCain is considering firing his campaign manager. It was Joe Scarborough on MSNBC's Morning Joe who said that.


by phoenixdreamz on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 08:12:29 AM EST

Re: EARLY WARNING (2.00 / 2)

Regardless of how bad he is, I just don't see how you fire a campaign manager 3 weeks out and win.  


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 09:00:29 AM EST
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Re: EARLY WARNING (2.00 / 1)

True.  It's a good thing for McCain that he hasn't totally squandered his reputation as a straight-shooter.  

Nope.  No way is his move going to be seen immediately as a political stunt by everybody.  


I'm voting for Saxby Chambliss!
by Jess81 on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 09:06:14 AM EST
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McCain will do ANYTHING to AVOID talking about (2.00 / 1)

the economy, his own lies, the obscene use of taxpayers money to "bail out" gamblers on Wall Street, his reliance on shallow and superficial wedge issues to divide Americans, and waste our precious time, and his own ADDICTION to money and power.

Just say "NO".


Health Care: WHY do we pay MORE and GET LESS?
http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/con tent/full/hlthaff.28.1.w1/DC1
by architek on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 12:23:34 PM EST
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And who cares about campaign managers (none / 0)

While I shudder at the term "joe 6-pack", how many people, us included, would be impressed by such a move?

McCain is trying to hit the reset button.

I think the better memes are "erratic" and "unstable". That way, any bold move can be headed off as "rash".


I attended PUMACon '08!!!
by iohs2008 on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 01:14:13 PM EST
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Re: EARLY WARNING (2.00 / 1)

Regardless of how bad he is, I just don't see how you fire a campaign manager 3 weeks out and win.  Best case, It will take at least a week to get up to speed.  Worse case 2-3 weeks.   Even int he best case for McCain, I just don't see him making up that much ground.


http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!
by yitbos96bb on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 09:03:27 AM EST
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You don't have to (2.00 / 1)

really fire him. Titles can change without meaning anything. Just "demote" Davis to Starbucks Gofer, and voila, the campaign has "cleaned house".


by Neef on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 09:47:07 AM EST
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McCain could fire, then rehire, himself... (2.00 / 1)

Palin was a HUGE blunder, and he can't take that one back. Obama's margin is big and getting bigger with every day that McCain continues to flail and fail.

I am sure that the folks at Diebold (or whatever their name is now) are burning the midnight candle trying to figure out a way to get him out of this one.

Even with technology "on their side" they can't win.


Health Care: WHY do we pay MORE and GET LESS?
http://content.healthaffairs.org/cgi/con tent/full/hlthaff.28.1.w1/DC1
by architek on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 12:26:24 PM EST
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Palin is a push at this point... (none / 0)

It may have been a blunder, but would he be any WORSE off if he had Lieberman or Ridge on the ticket?

He was NEVER going to go for Mitt, he hates him, and he thought he was going to get at least a partial sychopant with Palin (turns out, she is really willing to throw McCain overboard for her future in 2012...)

So, those two do NOTHING for the economic arguements...

Had he went for Ridge or JoeMentum, the economic news would still be crushing him, and the base would be screaming bloody murder..

And, at McCain, NOT as Obama as they are currently doing.

I mean, McCain has at least THAT going for him?

The angry mob that we call the Republican party wants to kill Obama, NOT him....


On Nov 4th, Barack Obama officially ends the Southern Strategy....
by WashStateBlue on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 12:32:55 PM EST
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Didn't Clinton "fire" Penn, too? (2.00 / 2)

Penn was supposedly fired but was still on every planning session and conference call.

And McCain supposedly sacked Phil Gramm down to potential ambassador to Belarus, even though we all know that McCain's entire economic policy is based on Grammonomics.

It's not even just the opposition: How much you want to bet that Samantha "Hillary Clinton is a monster" Power gets a call the minute Obama needs to create his State Department cabinet?


The pebbles have voted and the avalanche has begun.

President-Elect "That One"

by Dracomicron on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 09:58:07 AM EST
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I'm not so sure (none / 0)

I don't see it. I think many Clinton supporters would take it as a slap in the face, although she is qualified. She would have to apoliogize to Hillary in earnest before any such move can be made, and I'm an Obama supporter (and always have been).


I attended PUMACon '08!!!
by iohs2008 on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 01:15:30 PM EST
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I doubt it would be a problem (2.00 / 1)

Power isn't an egomaniac; she knows she was out of line when she said that.

Regardless, that's all going to be ancient history after a theoretical Obama win.  Nobody's going to care very much, or have much power to do anything about it.


The pebbles have voted and the avalanche has begun.

President-Elect "That One"

by Dracomicron on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 02:01:11 PM EST
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Re: Didn't Clinton "fire" Penn, too? (2.00 / 2)

She'll have a role. I'd be extremely surprised if it was at the cabinet level.

And yes, she'd have to apologize first. I'm not seeing that as a serious problem.


No Way. No How. No McCain-Palin!
by Texas Gray Wolf on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 01:48:34 PM EST
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Luckily the Clintons are bigger people (2.00 / 2)

Then a lot of thier nuttier supporters...

I'm sure she would apologize directly to Hillary who would graceously accept.

We can't allow stupid things said in the heat of primaries to keep somone as talented, AND as ethical out of the Obama cabinet.

She is exactlty the kind of advisor to help us become respected around the world again.


On Nov 4th, Barack Obama officially ends the Southern Strategy....
by WashStateBlue on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 02:09:27 PM EST
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For all we know, it's already happened (2.00 / 2)

I have no idea about Power's movements or actions since that fateful news story in The Scotsman.  For all we know, Samantha has already talked to Clinton and made amends in private.  It's not something that really needs to be public; if someone wants to make a big deal of it, it can be resolved with a press statement from Clinton.


The pebbles have voted and the avalanche has begun.

President-Elect "That One"

by Dracomicron on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 04:48:04 PM EST
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Oddly enough... (none / 0)

I do know of her movements, and what really happened during that time she was in the UK.

She's apologised already, publicly, to Hillary, who she admires in many ways.


Now Loose on the Moose
by brit on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 05:57:55 PM EST
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Re: EARLY WARNING: McCain (2.00 / 3)

I don't see how this move won't be seen as a desperate stunt...  All last week he runs a dirty campaign, and now he's going to be "mavericky" about it and change his mind?

That just feeds into the "unstable, erratic" problem he is having.


It profits a PUMA nothing to give their soul for the whole world... but for McCain? --Sir Thomas More (if he were here now)
by LordMike on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 08:15:24 AM EST

Re: EARLY WARNING: McCain (2.00 / 3)

good how is THAT not erratic

3 weeks before the election, and you say ok, I need a redo,

My Name is John McCain and I am running for President.

will he pick a new VP? lol they need to face it they lost. Ayers didn't work infact it blew up.

who would have guessed, character attacks during the worst economic crisis in a while.

nice try John.


Dream for tomorrow but fight for it today.
by TruthMatters on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 08:27:28 AM EST

THis raises interesting questions... (none / 0)

Can McCain change his VP, now that ballots have already been cast in several key states? Is that
legally feasible? What are the consequences for the validity of ballots already cast for the McCain/Palin ticket? What is the point of having a convention then (but that of course is the republican party's problem).
by french imp on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 05:24:02 PM EST
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McCain considering Reboot (2.00 / 4)

You can't throw your entire campaign overboard.  It just doesn't work like that.  What's the message there, "Ignore everything I've said so far because I either haven't meant it or I haven't been control of my own message.  Anyhoo, vote for me."?

Can you Sister Souljah yourself?


I'm voting for Saxby Chambliss!
by Jess81 on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 09:03:08 AM EST

This is not a video game (2.00 / 1)

You can't just save your campaign in May and reload when everything goes to hell.

It would be pretty awesome if you could do that, but I'm pretty sure that would destroy the space-time continuum.


The pebbles have voted and the avalanche has begun.

President-Elect "That One"

by Dracomicron on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 10:00:34 AM EST

Re: This is not a video game (2.00 / 1)

"You can't just save your campaign in May and reload when everything goes to hell."

Yet... MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA coughcough


And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.
by thatpurplestuff on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 03:49:29 PM EST
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It makes sense given the timing (2.00 / 1)

Clearly, McCain broke his own message this weekend, when he told those people Obama was decent. At the time, I'm sure his campaign was like "NOOO!!! WHAT ARE YOU DOING!?!".

Then, lo and behold, people start treating McCain like a good guy again. Obama thanks him. The media chimes in with "THIS is the McCain we knew". McCain regains the moral ground to the extent that Rep Lewis comments are construed negatively by the MSM.

And his campaign goes "WTF. You..like us? Really?". So now they have a nascent narrative, that McCain's innate integrity made him go all "mavericky" on his handlers. He broke out. He's BACK. They didn't invent this, they discovered it, based on this weekend's events. It's organic to actual reality, and so will pass the smell test for many.

Let's face it...the MSM still likes McCain. They are deeply disappointed in him, but most of them still believe he's a good man at his core. They would not only eat up this new "the good man returns" narrative, it would reassure many of them that all is right in the world. They WANT it to be true.

Now, we might ask - why change narratives 22 days out? The answer is - why not?? It's not like the old strategy was working. The farther down you get, the more you use high-risk, high-payoff moves. Sticking with a losing strategy is the LAST thing they should be doing at this point.


by Neef on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 10:02:03 AM EST

Heh (2.00 / 1)

Obviously I find this to be an erratic and schizoid move.  That said, he's made whatever "gains" he can from negative campaigning.  Might as well go "nice" and try to bring his favorables up.

Ain't gonna work, but it can't make things worse for McCain.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 10:26:23 AM EST

Re: Heh (2.00 / 1)

It'll work until Obama, fresh from practicing the debate (I hope), kicks his ass a third time. And even if Obama DOESN'T kick his ass, he has a half-hour special to explain very plainly what his plans are as President.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 12:08:16 PM EST
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Re: EARLY WARNING: (2.00 / 1)

THe McCain campaign reminds me of my old car. Constantly stalling and starting.


by RandyMI on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 10:33:35 AM EST

McCain considering Reboot of Campaign (2.00 / 1)

I think at this late stage, "rebooting" would be suicide.
They spent all weekend trying to come up with a new and "bold" plan for the economy and the whole thing fell apart last night, so now they have nothing.
Imagine what questions about McCain's judgement (or lack thereof) we could throw out there if three weeks before the election, he decides to start all over?
"Ignore everything I've said in the last 3 months"?
I'll believe it when I see it, he's done stupider things before this (Palin, anyone?).
"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC
by skohayes on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 10:36:46 AM EST

Re: McCain considering Reboot of Campaign (none / 0)

"Presidents don't get do-overs."


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 12:09:06 PM EST
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The fear is palpable (2.00 / 2)

It's starting to spread, we are going to watch them lightswitch back and forth from ACORN to Capital Gain Tax cuts to "Man of Mystery" Obama, when all the polls show if you're not senile or a red-neck idiot, you take a look at the stage and you see a smart thoughtful man who seems to have a good idea of what is going on and another erractic overamped fellow that looks like he needs a vacation more then being thrown into the maelstrom.

McCain seems totally focused on the campaign, Obama seems focused on what is happening in the country.

They can see it coming, they are praying for some external event to turn the tide, and that is a fearful position for a campaign, waiting for the deus ex machina to sweep down from Mount Olympus to save the day...


On Nov 4th, Barack Obama officially ends the Southern Strategy....
by WashStateBlue on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 12:14:04 PM EST

Nothing like... (2.00 / 1)

...a bit of Aristotelian Tragedy to start the week.

Thanks Washstateblue. Always rate your comments. You should join us on the moose


Now Loose on the Moose
by brit on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 12:42:31 PM EST
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Re: Nothing like... (2.00 / 1)

Thanks Brit...

Will check out the moose.


On Nov 4th, Barack Obama officially ends the Southern Strategy....
by WashStateBlue on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 12:44:43 PM EST
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Re: (2.00 / 1)

The election is in less than 22 days.  There is nothing that can be done now.  What we need to start thinking about is what the GOP will do after the election and before BO take the oath to undermine his presidency.  All you have to do is look back at 1992 to see what they did to clinton.

And the truth is liberal LET them do it.  We let the GOP bully us time and time again to undermine clinton's agenda and because of that, and the banking scandel, we lost a great chance.

The DNC has to be ready to say f-you to every bullshit demand that is going to be coming down the pike.  No independend investigators, no committee investigations, no anything.  We won you lost kiss my ass.  if they press doesnt like it we should freeze them out just like the GOP did the last 8 years.

david


by giusd on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 12:53:45 PM EST

Re: EARLY WARNING: McCain considering Reboot of Ca (2.00 / 1)

The narrative, at the moment, is that McCain is losing.  A two-edged sword, to be sure, but a bummer for his campaign nonetheless.  At some point the media is happy to segue from the 'close race' bullsh*t to the tragic 'how the mighty are fallen' story and we may have reached that tipping point.

Given the apparent lack of direction within his campaign itself seems only a matter of time before the internal divisions become public property, it's pretty discouraging trying to 'reboot' and getting a blue screen all the time.  Out of money, out of ideas and out of time.  I think many of the McCain campaign, especially his running mate, already have one eye on the emergency exits.


by Shaun Appleby on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 04:02:33 PM EST

Isn't it weird (2.00 / 1)

how so much of modern politics comes down to "what narrative will CNN pick?".


by Neef on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 06:44:47 PM EST
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Exactly (2.00 / 1)

Watching this weekend, you would have thought that ACORN was the greatest political hijacking of all time...

HUH? The Republicans purge 20,000 Democrats in Florida in 2000, GIVEN the election to Bush, and ACORN registering "Jimmy Johns" and using the address of the restuarant?

Come on, everyone in the report said "very little chance of this actually causing "at the poll fraud" but, from the CNN headlines, you would have believe ACORN was the equivalent of a South American coup!


On Nov 4th, Barack Obama officially ends the Southern Strategy....
by WashStateBlue on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 06:52:43 PM EST
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Re: Isn't it weird (2.00 / 1)

'Tis worrisome, however in this case I am convinced that the McCain campaign easily broke through the conventional narratives with the breathtaking incompetence with which they have conducted his campaign.  Sportscasters will always interrupt their own meandering racetrack commentary for a stunning pile-up.


by Shaun Appleby on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 06:55:40 PM EST
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