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Re: What do these people have in common? (1.80 / 5)

So they're not Republicans, just idiots?  Is that the point?

Dude, PUMA's reputations is completely in the shitter, no sense in wasting a diary trying to rehab it.  But, I guess you did identify a few of our enemies.


by rfahey22 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 06:00:59 PM EST

If Dem's who might have kept Bush out ... (2.00 / 5)

... of the White House are your "enemies" -- who are your friends?


¡Si, soy PUMA!
by RonK Seattle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 06:23:50 PM EST
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Re: If Dem's who might have kept Bush out ... (2.00 / 7)

People that aren't trying to put McCain in the White House, that's who.


by rfahey22 on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 06:58:08 PM EST
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Re: If Dem's who might have kept Bush out ... (2.00 / 3)

LOL, bravo!


"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC
by skohayes on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 07:11:12 PM EST
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Re: If Dem's who might have kept Bush out ... (2.00 / 2)

Dems "who might have" kept Bush out of the White House?
Um, in case you haven't noticed, Bush was chosen president in 2000.
I tried to keep Bush out of hte White House by voting for the other guy and giving him money.

"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC
by skohayes on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 07:13:34 PM EST
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But you were AWOL in the primaries ... (2.00 / 1)

... and proud of it???


¡Si, soy PUMA!
by RonK Seattle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 07:37:21 PM EST
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Re: But you were AWOL in the primaries ... (none / 0)

No, I supported Gore in the primaries, too.
Whatever gave you that idea?

"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC
by skohayes on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 07:53:38 PM EST
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So you made no difference ... (2.00 / 1)

... though you might have if you had understood the situation at hand, and the tactics available to us.

Even if you are upset about the current upset, you might want to study this bit of history to improve your understanding.

That is, IF you engage at politics to improve the world (and not just to improve your opinion of yourself).


¡Si, soy PUMA!
by RonK Seattle on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 08:43:21 PM EST
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Re: So you made no difference ... (none / 0)

Since Bush was the one chosen, I guess donating to the Republican candidate helped the Republicans more than the Dems, didn't it?
So, PUMA, is voting for McCain going to help "improve the world"?
Please.
"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC
by skohayes on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 09:06:33 AM EST
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Incorrect. (2.00 / 1)

The 2000 McCain campaign -- and the extra media money he used between New Hampshire and Super Tuesday -- peeled support away from Bush and exposed some of his machinations (for those who were willing to see through them). The result was fewer Bush votes in November.

You know how close November 2000 was. A little help in the right place might have changed the outcome (though the primary objective was to keep Bush off the Republican ticket).

Every day for years the netroots have advertised their innate inability to think in terms of the connection between actions and consequences. Democrats get out-played cycle after cycle.

We're doing it again. We don't have to, but we're doing it again.


¡Si, soy PUMA!
by RonK Seattle on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 01:28:31 PM EST
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Re: Incorrect. (none / 0)

You know how close November 2000 was. A little help in the right place might have changed the outcome

My point exactly.


"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC
by skohayes on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 06:54:57 PM EST
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Re: If Dem's who might have kept Bush out ... (2.00 / 4)

Ones who don't want BUSH III.  WOw now that I think about it, PUMA is full of people doing an about Face.  McCain 2000 does not = McCain 2008, but McCain 2008 = BUSH III = BUSH.

So these people who didn't want Bush now want Bush?  

You do know McCain wants to keep Bush tax cuts (which McCain 2000 wouldn't want) which even conservatives now know will destroy our country.

I am not sure which is more delusional, the people in PUMA, or the reasoning behind it?


by KLRinLA on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 07:24:21 PM EST
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