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Re: FISA: Ready to Rumble? (2.00 / 1)

Yes, you're right, of course.


"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC
by skohayes on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 07:47:48 PM EST
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Re: FISA: Ready to Rumble? (2.00 / 1)

I meant no slight, just really, really hoping this is the time.  It's been a long trek between drinks.


by Shaun Appleby on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 07:50:10 PM EST
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Well you might want to ask Al Gore what effect a pending impeachment has on a presidential candidate.  Democrats should be going after Bush and Chaney now. Kind of like the Republicans went after Pres. Clinton. Only candidate that I'd say would go after Bush after the 08 election would be Sen. Clinton. I don't think she'd care too much if it was called a witch hunt.

Naw I'm thinking Sen. Obama will do the same thing that Rep Pelosi is doing.


by 12 dogs and a blog on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 08:05:37 PM EST
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I don't think HRC's position on impeachment would be any different right now.  Kucinich on the other hand...


I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt
by fogiv on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 08:08:02 PM EST
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Go Dennis.  And look at the tremendous groundswell of support for his candidacy...  Sigh.


by Shaun Appleby on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 08:11:26 PM EST
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Gotta love Kucinich.  I'd follow that guy through the gates of hell.  He know's he can't win, and just keeps pushing.


I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt
by fogiv on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 08:21:55 PM EST
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I am ideologically aligned with him and Feinstein more than most other Democrats, but win the presidency?  Maybe in a parallel universe, but not here, not now.


by Shaun Appleby on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 08:43:05 PM EST
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I HOPE that's a typo. (none / 0)




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by benmasel on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 11:11:38 PM EST
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Re: I HOPE that's a typo. (none / 0)

Yeah, sort of a brain burp.


by Shaun Appleby on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 01:30:54 AM EST
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Honestly, do you think we are currently playing by the same rules as the Republicans were in 1998?  With a restless, intemperate media and the evangelical Right near it's zenith?  I'm glad sometimes our nominee has more apparent nous than some of his erstwhile supporters.


by Shaun Appleby on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 08:10:19 PM EST
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I do. I'm no political expert though. See to me they need the Impeachment in the house wheither or not the Senate vote is there. If they don't they won't get to issues that I read about here on mydd. I read on blog that talked about negligent contractors. This was resulting in faulty workmanship that had resulted in a soldiers death. That's wrong. I would think that Impeachment inquiries would bring the negligence of the war to light.

I don't think if Sen. Obama is saying he won't impeach now he will impeach after elected. Do you think that the general populace will be more likely to impeach or just say hey Bush is out of office so who cares now? Besides Sen. Obama would be busy setting up his administration the first year to be bogged down with impeachment.

That's just what I really feel.


by 12 dogs and a blog on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 08:53:09 PM EST
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Well, I agree that the likelihood of impeachment proceedings against any members of the Bush administration are pretty slim after Obama's inauguration, but similarly I'm guessing that they are suicidal to our aspirations during the election campaign.

There are other ways to exact our revenge, however, through normal legal channels.  Indictments on a variety of charges are not out of the question, especially if whistle-blowers felt comfortable in a new political environment.  I noticed recently that some of our EU allies have indicated they are considering war crimes indictments against lower level operatives in the Bush administration whom they feel had lied about the Iraq situation prior to the invasion, but they will not be proceeding until after January 2009.  They will not be alone in seeking redress, I'm guessing.


by Shaun Appleby on Thu Jul 03, 2008 at 09:15:14 PM EST
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LOL Shaun. I hope that they'll investigate the allegations of neglegence by contractors in Iraq. Not as revenge but as a way to keep troops from unnecessary harm and to save tax payer dollars.

take care and again happy holidays.


by 12 dogs and a blog on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 02:07:30 AM EST
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Frankly I would be disappointed if there weren't a mini-tsunami of whistle-blowers emergent after the inauguration.  Let's sick Waxman, Chairman of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, on them, I like his style.


by Shaun Appleby on Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 06:07:48 AM EST
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